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Beyond the Pour Podcast Episode 18 (with Bonus Episode!)

There’s about two and a half hours of content here, so hopefully no one’s disappointed on length at least. In the main episode, Jamison, Lee, and I discuss what we’ve been drinking, the “craft vs. crafty” distinction, and beer cultures around the world. We also play a little beer geek game around barrel-aged beer. In the bonus episode, Rob Derbyshire of Hopzine and I have a long and free-flowing conversation about the UK beer scene, craft beer vs. real ale, and a wide variety of other topics. If you listen carefully I even make a Doctor Who joke!

Main episode:


Show notes:

0:00 to 17:40 Introductions and what we’ve been drinking. Jamison: Deschutes Jubelale, Scotch Silly, Firestone Walker Parabola. Lee: Boxing Rock Vicar’s Cross DIPA, 2012 Oskar Blues Ten Fidy. Daniel: Three Floyds Arctic Panzer Wolf, various other Three Floyds beers, and a visit to Revolution Brewing in Chicago. Different kinds of experiences at breweries and brewpubs?
17:40 to 25:55 BrewDog’s definition of “craft beer” for the European market.
25:55 to 46:40 That leads into the “craft vs crafty” distinction which has been a major conversation piece in beer blogs for the last few months. Does it make sense to make a distinction between a true local brewery vs. a large corporation if we don’t make that distinction in other areas of our lives? What happens if and when large American breweries start to make really good beers? Is that even possible?
46:40 to 1:14:27 Beer culture around the world. Also, we respond to a few of our live comments.
1:14:27 to 1:27:22 A barrel-aging beer game Jamison came up with. Fun!
1:27:22 to 1:29:21 Wrapping up and where to find our stuff on the internet.

Jamison’s review of George T. Stagg Jr.

Bonus episode with Rob from Hopzine:


I didn’t keep show notes for the bonus episode, but it’s a fun listen. Check it out. For a good taste of Rob, check out his review of a fresh bottle of Stone Ruination here.


Video Review: Green Flash Le Freak

I don’t have much to say that isn’t in the video, so just watch and enjoy.

I’m planning on doing a viewer/reader response video for next Friday, so if you’ve got questions/comments you want me to respond to, place them somewhere I can see them in the next few days.

Hyperlocalization and Brewpubs: A Response to Elharlock

So, in response to my video the other day, fellow Beertuber Lee (a href =””>channel here) gave a video response talking about Canadian beer brands, national and local, and how the Canadian beer scene differs from the American scene.

It’s an excellent discussion of those issues, and Lee’s a great personality, so you should definitely check out the vid. (Lee’s also been on the podcast a couple of times, and I consider him a friend, so there!)

My response is below. I basically just clarify a bit of the original video regarding breweries vs. brewpubs: when I speak of the hyper-locality of the future of craft beer, I’m thinking more in terms of having your local (non- or limited-bottling) brewpub that serves as your go-to spot for day-to-day beer, as opposed to a network of ten thousand bottling breweries fighting for their slice of the pie. I don’t think I mention this in the video, but in the brewing cities of Europe in the middle ages up through industrialization, most beer was made in “home breweries” that operated much the way a bakery might work today. Small, local, artisinal brewers making decent beer to serve to those in the neighborhoods around them sounds like a great future for craft beer in America (and anywhere else, for that matter.)

Of course, opinions vary, so please feel free to leave yours in the comments below. I’m going to be doing a “respond to comments” video soon, so look forward to that.

0:00 to 0:47 Introductions
0:47 to 2:35 Talking about brewpubs as hyperlocal beer
2:35 to 4:05 Kalamazoo as a hyperlocal beer market? Maybe?
4:15 to end Thanking Lee for his response and learning a bit about craft beer in Canada.

Solo Beer Chat 1: National Beer Brands

Those of you obsessed with me (ladies) are already aware of the new project I’m doing where I open a beer, drink through it, and talk about some issue related to the craft beer industry (or my life) in the process. The video ends when the beer is over, which makes it easy for me to edit but also makes for long, sometimes meandering videos.

Well, now I’m adding the content for the podcast. I’ve used Audacity to clean up the audio for the podcast, but otherwise the content is the same. This is meant for those who (like me) would rather take the audio with them rather than watch the video on Youtube. This is an experiment, so we’ll see what the stats look like after a few weeks when determining whether I continue on this path.


Show Notes

0:00 to 3:00 Introductions and Green Flash West Coast IPA
3:00 to 6:24 The place for national beer brands
6:24 to 9:12 Talking about personal issues With a couple of members of the beertube community
9:12 to 14:50 The future of beer (Spoiler alert! Hopefully local, innovative, and high-quality.)
14:50 to Finishing the beer and finishing the video.

Lee’s great video talking about our fellow Beertubers:

Video Beer Review: Surly Hell

Another day, another Surly beer. This one is their Helles Lager, and it’s pretty damned nice. Check it out if you can get it.

(And yes, I have a weak spot for bright lagers, the redheaded stepchildren of the craft beer world.)

Video Beer Review: Surly Coffee Bender

Another old video, originally shot on May 9 of this year. A friend from Minnesota came in for the Medieval Congress and brought me some Surly beers. This is the first review (the other will likely go up next week.)

Overall: not my favorite kind of coffee beer, but worth a shot if you can get it.

Video Review, Schneider-Weisse Aventinus Eisbock

Yep, another really old review, from back when I had a real beard. This one was shot on 2013-05-01.

The upshot? Very good, but not my kind of beer.